How Old Are Sebastian and Maru? || Stardew Valley 1.6 Lore and Theory
In Stardew Valley, the ages are never specified… But let’s continue our theory about some of their ages and take into consideration some comments yall have left. Sebastian and Maru’s family has some interesting dynamics and I think there are some clues we can work with…
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First comment is mines :4evil
Which do yall think: Theory A or Theory B?
a doctor in his mid 30s? Guess Harvey is a hot item after all – and didn't catch that Shane would be that old,I just thought his..erm .. "lifestyle" had taken its toll
Personally, I think Sebastian is around 27 and Maru around 20-23, I think this because Demetrius has dialogue about him wanting her going to college some day. I think that Abigail is probably 23 and Sam around 25 and I think Penny is 26 since she is a teacher. I don’t think Harvey has a crush on Maru I just think she’s the only person in town he really knows so he worries extra about her.
i lean more to theory B— solely because i don't think Robin could move on that fast after her first marriage, i always thought of Sebastian's dad passed away on certain circumstances and that left Robin in the shadows for a few years before she decides to move on and try to get Sebastian a better life as well (although in the end it turns out not really well, Seb hates his stepdad he don't like Maru yadda yadda)
plus the large age gap may contribute to him thinking that Maru doesn't like him either (judging by his married dialogue which goes like "i'm sure Maru's happy that i'm gone" or something)
i'm speaking from irl experiences btw lol my older brother and me has a large age gap as well and i always felt left behind seeing how much he could accomplish when i'm just being another average-grade student even in college
Theory B only because Seb’s attitude towards Robin’s new husband makes sense as someone who very use to living with just his mom but was force to accept her new boyfriend as his new father figure, and the anxiety that came from seeing his parents separating at a young age but old enough to remember to cause his anxiety.
And for a fun fact there was cut dialogue of Robin talking to her ex meaning that his father is alive but has no contact/ limited relationship with Seb.
If you believe Theory A; it is also possible that Robin knew Demetre before the loss of her first husband. However, I don't think this supports the distance Sebastion feels between himself and his sister. It isn't impossible, but i still feel they would be closer even if Demetre wasn't a good stepfather.
Theory B is personally the one I agree more with. Sebastion went to college, came back, and Maru is expected to still go. If we assume most colleges are at least four years, this alone will put Maru in the 21-25, or younger, age range is we agree that Sebastion is at least 29 years old. Though even if we knock Sebastion down to 26, Maru can still easily be 19-21.
It might help understand Ape's culture; are people allowed to drink alcohol earlier or later in life? America is 21 and older; while some countries are 18 and older, or younger if with a parent or guardian; also, there are some countries that you have to be much older to drink.
I personally don't recall a scene in which Maru goes into the Tavern with her folks. She lets that be their thing. Robin and Demetre dance and it always looks like Robin is smiling, like this was something she couldn't do with her pervious partner. Sebastion is old enough to be in there on his own, and I believe Gus wouldn't serve to anyone underage. Gus does have a wide range of items for sale, and with the town being so small, he knows everyone's parents/guardians.
Overall, I believe the age theory video was wonderfully done with a lot of thought put into it! Keep up the good work :3
Help I’m too deep into sdv theories, it’s warping my perspective on everything, there not even that big of theories they just make so much sense but aren’t canon😭😭
Theory B. I think Seb's dad (most likely IMO) dying unexpectedly or separating from Robin when Seb was a little older makes more sense. Compared to a two-year-old, an older kid will have a harder time accepting a new parental figure and may even think their former parent is being cruelly replaced (don't you love them anymore?). This would explain a lot of that resentment. There are ways to do it right, but when Robin met Demetrius, she fell in love hard and fast and tied the knot before Seb was completely on board. They then had a child soon after getting married and since Seb still had memories of his previous family it suddenly seemed like he was being replaced too. He was suddenly an outsider, a smear on their image of a perfectly happy family, because he still dearly missed his dad.
With theory A there would have to be some other reason Seb didn't accept Demetrius as his father. Maybe there was a one-time event that shattered the relationship, Demetrius actually showed a lot of favoritism, or….?
With absolutely no proof or evidence at all, I wonder if maybe Maru is from an earlier marriage for Dimitrius that never was fleshed out, It seems weird to just have a book about making the most of your second marriage lying around unless it could be something they both read. But there is only minis proof for this theory
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This kinda changed my view of Harvey
I think Seb and Maru have a large-ish age gap. From my own experience, bonding with an older sibling (my fully biological brother and I are 13 apart in age) is difficult, especially if there are only two siblings (on the other hand, my best friend has two siblings, each 5 years apart and she's the eldest, well, except for an older half brother whom she doesn't really talk to)
Regarding age gaps in friendships, I'm twenty and have two friends whom I've met online through Genshin Impact. They're 16 and 14. They're my ride-or-dies. Considering Seb, Sam and Aby are in a band together, I think they bonded over their interest in music quite a while ago (Aby goes close to Seb's house to play the flute if I'm not wrong and Seb could have heard her play and they strated talking.) As for Maru and Penny, it's possible that they were schooled together. Both of them are pretty smart and it's possible there was someone who filled the teacher role when Penny wasn't old enough to teach. And considering Pelican town is very small, there wouldn't be a reason to teach each grade individually as there would only be 2 children max in each grade.
There's probably mistakes in this, but this is how I feel about it^^
I lean more towards theory A, I just don't see a huge age gap between them, though their relationship somewhat reminds me of me and my sister's relationship. We are five years apart and complete opposites, but what I find interesting is the more we get to know them, the closer they seem to become.
Imo Sebastian is 25 and Sam is 22, with Maru being 20. I have a similar age gap with one of my sisters, five years may not seem like much but growing up it felt like she was completely at a different stage than me, I can understand how that can set up resentment. I also believe Robin and Demetrius may have had Maru before getting married, with Maru perhaps living with Demetrius throughout early childhood. Combining for an even more rocky start.
As for Sam, him being 22 allows leeway for his ‘teenage’ behavior yet still allows him to have had gone to highschool with Seb since they both tend to reminisce about the ‘good old days’.
I lean towards B but I don't think he died – I think Sebstian dad wasn't a good person. Notices how his dad is never brought up? Usually families dymnaics are brought up someway, somehow if there important. if Sebstiasn dad was a loving mam who died I'm sure either Sebstian or Robin would mention him. But I also think they broke it off when Sebstian was little, so he has no real memory of him. Robin was a single mom so having Demtrius suddenly around was a lot, didn't help he couldn't bond with Demtrius who I also thing is at fault for that too. Once Maru was born he was probably neglected as the new baby needed more attion. leading to the now strained dynamic in the families. Demitruis favoritism towards is daughter probably is also the reason Sebstian and Maru relationship is so strained. Even though Sebstian must be very smart too,
This probably why he wished to live in a city, not cause he hated the village but cause he didn't feel at home.
but I think there age gap also might be 5 or 6 years. SO like, its in the middle of large and small. But long enough to make bonding hard. Like Sebstian is a teen and Maru would still be a child for example.
It's possible that Robins and Demetrius mariage start as a deal not becouse of love. They both realy practical persons, Demetrius even to the point of being realy weird in his practicality. Maybe they was friends before and after Robins first husband left her pregnant/with realy smal child alone, Demetrius sugest deal. He give her financial stability and place to live while she take care of all house chores so he can focus on his sciense reserch. But over time they start acting more like a copule and less as a roommates.
This don't answer the question about Sebastians and Marus age gap but might explain other problems in this family. Also, I think age gap is something around 3-5 years.
There are "Age" and "Love Interest" entries in the game's file, as well as some other dispositions like "Social Anxiety", "Manner" and such, which mostly affects generic NPC lines they use. (For example, a "Polite" NPC will use a list of milder words; A "Kid" will react to certain player behaviors with a list of childish remarks.) These are previously in NPCDispositions.xnb, now merged into Stardew ValleyContentDataCharacters.xnb after 1.6 with some changes.
Here's some interesting info:
Abigail, Maru, Penny, Sam and Sebastian are categorized as "Teenager"s, while all other marriage candidates are "Adult"s.
The 10 original marriage candidates are mutual "Love Interest"s with their official pairing, including Maru & Harvey. Emily and Shane has no "Love Interest".
"Love Interest" isn't necessarily mutual, for example, Marnie is Marlon's "Love Interest", Lewis is Marnie's "Love Interest", but Lewis loves nobody.
Additionally, in the CS codes for the Theater, there are defined friend groups that would go to watch movies together. Abigail, Sam and Sebastian are obviously friends; But apparently Harvey, Maru and Penny are in a lesser pronounced group, too. (They stand together at the Flower Dance, go to the Theater together, Penny talks about Harvey crushing on Maru… But none other than that is shown in the game.) Notice how Harvey is the only non-"Teenager" here? Now this gives me a theory that at the time most NPC related stuff were completed, Harvey still had his older design where he was significantly younger. (This can be backed up by the fact that Alex is still referred to as "Josh" in some of the codes, and NPCs' sprites noticably resemble their older portraits more.) CA didn't bother to change it later on, thus the whole "Harvey/Maru" age gap thing is now read as weird. Current version Harvey has the least amount of non-event NPC lines among all marriage candidates, which is only ~20 lines (he is "boring" because he was did dirty brooo), while others have ~60 to 90, and I suspect that is due to so many of his previous design lines being scrapped along with the portrait, and maybe some of those could even hint their little friend group. But that's just my wild speculation.
Are there any theories about Penny’s father? I know there’s dialogue about him leaving because he felt trapped, but it might be fun to explore some thoughts on who he might be and what he might be like
these age guessing videos are so fun to watch they’re gonna make me do my own version, i love these!
My thinking…
Abigail and Sam are probably around 19-20. Considered adult but have yet to truly mature.
Shane is obviously over 21 (considering the law in the US) but I would believe probably more around 23, possibly a bit older, 24-25 top. He's allowed to drink and had some time to get into trouble and rack up even more trouble which got him to go and live with his aunt in order to try to turn his life around (at least that's his family wishes).
Harvey is probably in his late 30s. He's a doctor which would take him several years to get to a point where he can have his own independent practice (Early 30s) so I would assume he did his studies, worked maybe a bit in the city and decided to open his practice. With all that, the time it could take I assume late 30s.
Elliot is probably in his 40s. He lives alone on a beach in a backwater town and seems jobless. My guess is midlife crisis.
Sebastian is probably around the age of Abigail since he is friend with her and Sam. He's still showing sign of lack of maturity and teen habits some I think that would be a fair assessment.
Since Maru is younger as confirmed by ConcernedApe that would put her around 18-19 if Sebastian is 19-20. The fact that she work in the clinic doesn't mean she's has any medical training, don't let the nurse outfit fool you. She's probably a medical assistant at best on that regard.
Penny I believe would be between mid and late 20s. She matured and is trusted to teach and not turn Skywalker on the younglings.
Emily is obviously above 21 (again assuming US law) since she work behind the counter at a bar. By guess would be mid 20s since she is trusted to care for the house while her parents are touring the world.
Haley is probably the younger sister being early 20s. She hasn't matured yet and clearly not responsible enough yet to care for the house properly with her sister.
All that… IMO of course 🙂
İ believe teory B. Because i think if when Robin and Demetrius is getting married and Sebastian was just a baby, he doesn't feel that much outside of the family. İ dunno. Thinking hım as a 5-7 year old child is sound more fitting for me. Also i don't think Demetrius is a person who can quikly gettin married. İ also find it more logical that he and Robin are married after few years.
Personally I always felt like Sebastian was in his mid to late twenties. Thinking him being at least 28 years old.
If we look at it at a realistic stand point (to me personally for Maru’s sake.)
Maru would have been in nursing school in order to work with Harvey, doing science on the side. With that Maru could be a student nurse, working in a hospital. However I say Maru is either 26 or 25 due to her completing the nursing program and able to work with Harvey as a practicing nurse.
In the stands as your theory, I kind of see as Robin probably did divorce Sebastians’s dad with in the first year of Sebastian’s life. Probably having a co-parenting relationship with her exhusband. On the days Sebastian is with his actual dad. Robin actually go out meet Demetrius and probably fell in love with him after a few dates. Gotten married. Then living with his stepfather. While his actual dad probably ended the co-parenting thing. At the age of two shortly before Maru was born. I was thinking of it like that.
My personal theory is that they have a 3 year age gap, I think Sebastian’s father walked out and Robin started dating Demetrius, but Robin got pregnant with Maru they married
I read them as being fairly close in age, and that the distance between Sebastian and Maru is something that grew once they were in their teens and Demetrius’ favoritism of Maru became more recognizable. I read Maru as being about 23 and Sebastian as around 25-26. I get the impression that Seb didn’t go to college and was never encouraged to, whereas Maru always was and Demetrius resents that she followed her brother’s path of success without a degree, and blames Sebastian for that. How Demetrius and Robin ended up together….i have no idea how they even met. But I can definitely see Demetrius seeing baby Sebastian and thinking they raising him would be as easy as following the parenting books and nothing more.
I also don’t read Harvey as old as 35+. I think he’s only about 32. Old enough to feel “old” but not old enough to realize he’s still fairly young. And he’s so awkward that his crush on Maru comes across (to me) as more proximity based than anything else.
For me this all comes down to how creepy do you think Harvey is? 😂 He is Maru’s “older” boss who wants rub sunscreen on her.
I think Maru is 25 cause Harvey wouldn’t go for anyone whose brain isn’t fully developed.
I don’t think Robin would get pregnant by two different men in a short span and also Sebastian feels very awkward 30 year oldish.