The mace is pretty useless in regular gameplay, how often are you able to fall on top of an enemy from a great height anyway? Oh and also they have to stand perfectly still while you're falling. Its fun to play with for about an hour or two in creative mode, other than that it's just taking up a slot in your ender chest if it's lucky.

I also tried spear and couldn't understand the point of it. You have to start holding click 4 business days before reaching the mob you want to hit.

The game could use more weapon variants but I don't think these are it. They both have such specific use cases that it makes them useless 99% of the time.

For example I can think of a few new weapons that are (imo) better than both;

– A sling that can shoot cobblestone to do 2-3 hearts damage, or even better, make the sling able to shoot fire charges like ghasts do.

– A long stick (fine, a "spear") that does as much damage as a hoe or a shovel, but has slightly longer reach than a sword

– Shuriken or throwing knives that do up to 10 hearts of damage depending on distance and where it hits (like a headshot from 10+ blocks distance could one hit a zombie)

by mekmookbro

28 Comments

  1. TriangularHexagon on

    i use neither of these weapons. i don’t even have a sword. well i do, but it is just a wooden sword with looting 3 just for mob farms

  2. The Mace should be a tiered weapon. It’s essentially a vertical spear, so it’s weird to have it locked behind the trial chambers when the spear is always available.

  3. Just to collect it’s fun to have fully enchanted stuff even if you never use em. Both are usable but are way more narrow than a sword or axe so I tend to use those. Spear on elytra could be fun to try

  4. I like the spear because of its lunge ability. On Bedrock, it’s useful to start up Elytra, and it can propel Elytra without rockets (boost doesn’t last as long as rockets so it’s easier to steer in tight places).

    As for the mace, not really. Before I had it, I had visions of me one-shotting the ender dragon, but I never really got to it. Mostly, it’s just a trophy that takes up space in my ender chest.

  5. The sword and bow are the only weapons you ever truly need. Everything else will just be gimmick. And honestly that is fine.

  6. I’ve never tried the mace, but I did try the spear recently … I’m sure it gets better with familiarity, but I don’t like it – I’ll be sticking to my sword.

  7. revolution_soup on

    hell yes the spear is so useful early-game when you haven’t set up farms yet, plus it’s cheaper than a sword materials-wise

  8. adamdoesmusic on

    I’ve done so many trial chambers and never gotten a heavy core.

    I’ve got a few spears I’ve collected. Never gotten around to trying them.

  9. LostBike3830 on

    You do realize the base spear’s base attack has the weaker damage but higher range just like your idea? The Mace is definitely a gimmicky weapon but you are meant to primarily use it in tandem with wind charges and not just fall from a height hoping a mob doesn’t move away. Spear definitely has its place in singleplayer, having better range, the lunge enchantment for mobility, the piercing effect, and lunge when used properly can be really effective at quickly killing mobs like Creepers.

  10. David_Pacefico on

    I use the spear quite often. It’s essentially a dash that makes you get around quicker provided you got plenty of food.

  11. Tsunamicat108 on

    I’m not usually naturally in a good place to use either of them but I find the mace really satisfying to use so i’ll occasionally go out of my way to use it.

  12. Skypenguin8_Matt on

    The spear may be the best thing added to the game in recent years (outside of the shelf), and I never use it for combat… Simply having Lunge 3 saves UNREAL amounts of time. So to answer your question, I never use the mace but I use the spear non-stop.

  13. BosPaladinSix on

    I found it useful to use the spear against creepers. It hits them before you get within their fuse range and the knock back keeps them at a good distance.

  14. I do actually use the spear, makes horseback combat an actual viable option. Even an iron spear earlier game does way more damage than an iron sword, I think it’s just up to personal preference

  15. CreeperAsh07 on

    I fought 10 Bedrock withers + the dragon in my hardcore world and we didn’t even use the sword. Just trident for mobility and mace + spear for damage.

  16. _Nirtflipurt_ on

    Mace is super fun for raiding bastions. Bait brutes out and you can just one shot all of them. It’s fun to work on mechanics too but I love optimizing mechanics so maybe that’s just me

  17. Spear with lunge is an amazing substitute for fireworks early game if you have elytra but no creeper farm

  18. Personally I feel the spear was implemented incorrectly. It is like a mash up of a lance and a spear when they should have just done a true spear and a lance separately. Spears should be throwable for example and you can’t really joist with the spears very well. Missed opportunity I agree.